Comments on: The Day the Music Died, Redux http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/09/17/the-day-the-music-died-redux/ Where hope springs eternal in the eye of the artist. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:51:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: louis allgeyer http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/09/17/the-day-the-music-died-redux/#comment-1299 louis allgeyer Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:10:31 +0000 http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/09/17/the-day-the-music-died-redux/#comment-1299 9.25.08 michael kimmel, today, in the new york times arts page says it is all due to the post war artists who were over exposed to abstract expressioninm being now displaced by the children of the boomers, who werren't. 9.25.08

michael kimmel, today, in the new york times arts page says it is all due to the post war artists who were over exposed to abstract expressioninm being now displaced by the children of the boomers, who werren’t.

]]> By: bob schulz http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/09/17/the-day-the-music-died-redux/#comment-1296 bob schulz Sun, 21 Sep 2008 01:22:49 +0000 http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/09/17/the-day-the-music-died-redux/#comment-1296 Isn't desiring, purchasing and hanging a painting on a wall in a private home also entertainment? If I'm correct, isn't pleasure one of the reasons paintings are purchased? Or for that matter, viewed in a museum? Entertainment is a good thing? No? Lifts the spirit, raises the gaze, fills the mind with dopamine in extreme cases, and can vex the mind forever with the thought, "why the hell did I buy this thing that I can't stop looking at?" Isn’t desiring, purchasing and hanging a painting on a wall in a private home also entertainment? If I’m correct, isn’t pleasure one of the reasons paintings are purchased? Or for that matter, viewed in a museum?

Entertainment is a good thing? No? Lifts the spirit, raises the gaze, fills the mind with dopamine in extreme cases, and can vex the mind forever with the thought, “why the hell did I buy this thing that I can’t stop looking at?”

]]> By: admin http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/09/17/the-day-the-music-died-redux/#comment-1295 admin Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:10:49 +0000 http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/09/17/the-day-the-music-died-redux/#comment-1295 After twenty years I've only made it to the third inning? Jeez, what a long game this is turning out to be... I personally like baseball. Enough to know there's another cliché that fits here: "We'll get 'em next year!" That is, I've made my peace now with having to leave such a godawful job--the culmination of all my work and skill-gathering and experience--and going off into the off-season. There are no worries now. I've got a calm new job that's going well, I'm still writing about art, I'm much better off than I was. I've even started hatching new off-season plans and schemes for art, thinking maybe I'll even build myself a new studio and start making some art myself again. "I'll get 'em next year!" After twenty years I’ve only made it to the third inning? Jeez, what a long game this is turning out to be…
I personally like baseball. Enough to know there’s another cliché that fits here: “We’ll get ‘em next year!”
That is, I’ve made my peace now with having to leave such a godawful job–the culmination of all my work and skill-gathering and experience–and going off into the off-season. There are no worries now. I’ve got a calm new job that’s going well, I’m still writing about art, I’m much better off than I was. I’ve even started hatching new off-season plans and schemes for art, thinking maybe I’ll even build myself a new studio and start making some art myself again.
“I’ll get ‘em next year!”

]]> By: Richard Stryker http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/09/17/the-day-the-music-died-redux/#comment-1293 Richard Stryker Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:48:55 +0000 http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/09/17/the-day-the-music-died-redux/#comment-1293 Okay. Pick yourself up. Dust yourself off. And, get yourself back in the game. There is no failure. It's the third inning, for Pete's sake. Try a new bat. Adjust your swing a little bit. I know it hurts when you get hit by a pitch. Okay, okay, I don't like baseball either. It's boring. But, you like ART. So, you have to constantly negotiate with your doubts. And, remember it's just the third inning. Okay. Pick yourself up. Dust yourself off. And, get yourself back in the game. There is no failure. It’s the third inning, for Pete’s sake. Try a new bat. Adjust your swing a little bit. I know it hurts when you get hit by a pitch. Okay, okay, I don’t like baseball either. It’s boring. But, you like ART. So, you have to constantly negotiate with your doubts. And, remember it’s just the third inning.

]]> By: louis allgeyer http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/09/17/the-day-the-music-died-redux/#comment-1292 louis allgeyer Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:56:40 +0000 http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/09/17/the-day-the-music-died-redux/#comment-1292 There does seem to be a bit of luck involved in being a market-place only artist, Damian Hist, Matt Barney, etc. How they get traction is a mystery but it all seems to be about networking. Otherwise one digs ones grave teaching & chasing grants. But is what Hist & Barney & etc doing art or entertainment? Maybe both as the term "artist" is so loosely thrown about. You've got your recording artist and your escape artist and your screen artist. And now your multi-media artist. Art as a term is so freighted with cultural baggage and art historians & curator people keep it that way to keep their jobs. Much the way MOMA keeps trotting out Jackson Pollack to keep up the value of their holdings. Really, "art" is interior decoration that by the passage of time becomes a window to many facets of historic time in some future time. Time is the catalist, not media hype. I think, maybe. Keep painting. There does seem to be a bit of luck involved in being a market-place only artist, Damian Hist, Matt Barney, etc. How they get traction is a mystery but it all seems to be about networking. Otherwise one digs ones grave teaching & chasing grants.

But is what Hist & Barney & etc doing art or entertainment? Maybe both as the term “artist” is so loosely thrown about. You’ve got your recording artist and your escape artist and your screen artist. And now your multi-media artist.

Art as a term is so freighted with cultural baggage and art historians & curator people keep it that way to keep their jobs. Much the way MOMA keeps trotting out Jackson Pollack to keep up the value of their holdings. Really, “art” is interior decoration that by the passage of time becomes a window to many facets of historic time in some future time. Time is the catalist, not media hype.

I think, maybe.

Keep painting.

]]> By: Gabe Combs http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/09/17/the-day-the-music-died-redux/#comment-1290 Gabe Combs Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:49:48 +0000 http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/09/17/the-day-the-music-died-redux/#comment-1290 i rather enjoyed the history of the article. i found it funny reading it just after posting a middle finger post to the summer shakeups thread. you sir, are a motivator in some sense. i make more art as the art world locally lets me down, not less. one local artist that is doing ok told me, about at year ago, "if i don't make it by the time i'm thirty, i'm quitting art and doing something else" this is the fundamental problem with art currently, is that the business/career is taking the drivers seat, and the true art is being kicked to the curb by the incestual cluster fuck of maggots that eat everything and feed nothing but themselves. i wish it were just bitterness, or even some sort of hate that motivated these thoughts in me, but even in the face of the economical crisis, fashion is "in". culture and art that moves me are dwindling. hopefully this economic problem will weed out some folks, but who knows. i don't have time to watch it, as i must make art for 18 hours a day. not sure how motivated i even am to see the forums until their inevitable death. bontecou had the right idea, just walk away. or, to reference your post here, "not. another. word..." i rather enjoyed the history of the article. i found it funny reading it just after posting a middle finger post to the summer shakeups thread. you sir, are a motivator in some sense. i make more art as the art world locally lets me down, not less. one local artist that is doing ok told me, about at year ago, “if i don’t make it by the time i’m thirty, i’m quitting art and doing something else” this is the fundamental problem with art currently, is that the business/career is taking the drivers seat, and the true art is being kicked to the curb by the incestual cluster fuck of maggots that eat everything and feed nothing but themselves. i wish it were just bitterness, or even some sort of hate that motivated these thoughts in me, but even in the face of the economical crisis, fashion is “in”. culture and art that moves me are dwindling. hopefully this economic problem will weed out some folks, but who knows. i don’t have time to watch it, as i must make art for 18 hours a day. not sure how motivated i even am to see the forums until their inevitable death. bontecou had the right idea, just walk away. or, to reference your post here, “not. another. word…”

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