Comments on: More B.P.O.Fs for July 28 (A follow up or two) http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/07/28/more-bpofs-for-july-28-a-follow-up-or-two/ Where hope springs eternal in the eye of the artist. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:34:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Gabe Combs http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/07/28/more-bpofs-for-july-28-a-follow-up-or-two/#comment-1193 Gabe Combs Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:04:27 +0000 http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/07/28/more-bpofs-for-july-28-a-follow-up-or-two/#comment-1193 maybe i'm somehow out of context of a quote, but did'nt warhol say "pop will eat itself", and would that not be an ominous quote of doom especially since juxtapoz is the number one art mag now? just wondering as it struck me the other day that he said that, and even though i could have how it was being said wrong, its possibly a impending failure statement at least for american art. i like juxtapoz/pop surrrealism but most definately not (sorry, lazy spelling today) more than well, almost every other art movement. i just see a potential for more good art from it but its seems to just well, eat itself... i like this chuck connelly guy btw, whom i looked up after reading here... maybe i’m somehow out of context of a quote, but did’nt warhol say “pop will eat itself”, and would that not be an ominous quote of doom especially since juxtapoz is the number one art mag now? just wondering as it struck me the other day that he said that, and even though i could have how it was being said wrong, its possibly a impending failure statement at least for american art. i like juxtapoz/pop surrrealism but most definately not (sorry, lazy spelling today) more than well, almost every other art movement. i just see a potential for more good art from it but its seems to just well, eat itself…

i like this chuck connelly guy btw, whom i looked up after reading here…

]]> By: bob schulz http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/07/28/more-bpofs-for-july-28-a-follow-up-or-two/#comment-1192 bob schulz Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:36:54 +0000 http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/07/28/more-bpofs-for-july-28-a-follow-up-or-two/#comment-1192 Well, not to flatter, but you do have a sense of art history that flavors your criticism. Well, not to flatter, but you do have a sense of art history that flavors your criticism.

]]> By: admin http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/07/28/more-bpofs-for-july-28-a-follow-up-or-two/#comment-1191 admin Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:39:17 +0000 http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/07/28/more-bpofs-for-july-28-a-follow-up-or-two/#comment-1191 You ask good questions. I have been doing this for awhile, so you'd assume I have some answers... The only thing I can steer you toward is the "About" page on this site, and some of the earliest posts, in which I attempted to lay out my reasoning for doing this and a strategy. As a point of clarification, I don't have a history degree in art. I have a fine art degree (and was a practitioner for many years) and a degree in nonprofit arts administration. Damn, I still need to find a way to see that Chuck Connelly documentary. Anyone know when it's coming to town? You ask good questions. I have been doing this for awhile, so you’d assume I have some answers…

The only thing I can steer you toward is the “About” page on this site, and some of the earliest posts, in which I attempted to lay out my reasoning for doing this and a strategy.

As a point of clarification, I don’t have a history degree in art. I have a fine art degree (and was a practitioner for many years) and a degree in nonprofit arts administration.

Damn, I still need to find a way to see that Chuck Connelly documentary. Anyone know when it’s coming to town?

]]> By: bob schulz http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/07/28/more-bpofs-for-july-28-a-follow-up-or-two/#comment-1190 bob schulz Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:22:21 +0000 http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/07/28/more-bpofs-for-july-28-a-follow-up-or-two/#comment-1190 It's been a few years since you became aware of the burgeoning model of failure within art. I wonder if you have reached or are yet reaching for an answer? You have a history degree in art and with this long view can you now see something inate in this post Postmodern era which likely caused an inevitable decline? Is there a decline? Or, is what we witness weekly a mere correction that seems historically correlative to economic ups and downs? Is the world of art simply exhausted of itself as its audience is of it? Do artists who continue laboring at their work incognizant of the swirl of failure, care? And if government comes to rescue, full funding of everything, would that strengthen Art? I can't get The Triumph of American Painting out of my mind, and wth has happened since. As Chuck Connelly sits on his ouvre of 3000 plus neo-expressionist marvels, his work remains, if yet unseen. Its power, as such, untapped. I salute his stubborness, his independence. In some way it is supremely admirable. Maybe he is not a failure? Does income always define success? Success must be more subtle. It’s been a few years since you became aware of the burgeoning model of failure within art. I wonder if you have reached or are yet reaching for an answer? You have a history degree in art and with this long view can you now see something inate in this post Postmodern era which likely caused an inevitable decline? Is there a decline? Or, is what we witness weekly a mere correction that seems historically correlative to economic ups and downs?

Is the world of art simply exhausted of itself as its audience is of it? Do artists who continue laboring at their work incognizant of the swirl of failure, care? And if government comes to rescue, full funding of everything, would that strengthen Art? I can’t get The Triumph of American Painting out of my mind, and wth has happened since.

As Chuck Connelly sits on his ouvre of 3000 plus neo-expressionist marvels, his work remains, if yet unseen. Its power, as such, untapped. I salute his stubborness, his independence. In some way it is supremely admirable. Maybe he is not a failure? Does income always define success? Success must be more subtle.

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