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	<title>Comments on: Artists killing themselves through competition</title>
	<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/</link>
	<description>Where hope springs eternal in the eye of the artist.</description>
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		<title>By: atlanta spa</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-2003</link>
		<author>atlanta spa</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 05:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this article and i love to talk about it.... Artists killing themselves through competition because they want a lot of awards in order to be a most popular not only on their time but also in the artist history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this article and i love to talk about it&#8230;. Artists killing themselves through competition because they want a lot of awards in order to be a most popular not only on their time but also in the artist history.</p>
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		<title>By: trainingsplan muskelaufbau</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-1875</link>
		<author>trainingsplan muskelaufbau</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-1875</guid>
		<description>When you go through hardships and choose not to surrender, that's strength</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you go through hardships and choose not to surrender, that&#8217;s strength</p>
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		<title>By: beth</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-1774</link>
		<author>beth</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 16:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-1774</guid>
		<description>Maybe this answers why profs never wanna 'teach' the technical side of art, especially photography, lighting skills. all artists seem too much talking about ideas, not doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this answers why profs never wanna &#8216;teach&#8217; the technical side of art, especially photography, lighting skills. all artists seem too much talking about ideas, not doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabe Combs</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-556</link>
		<author>Gabe Combs</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-556</guid>
		<description>Yeah, I have an Etsy account. But i'm so under the bills all the time that I need to sell anything I do right away, so Ebay is still it. Plus, my feedback on there is like 326 and people have begun to expect to find me there. Etsy has  a weird bug also. I took stuff down from there and it was down for well over a week, but then one sold. (?) So that makes me a little put off by it. Not to Etsy bash or anything. Almost everyone i've heard speak of it likes it, and I imagine I will also...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I have an Etsy account. But i&#8217;m so under the bills all the time that I need to sell anything I do right away, so Ebay is still it. Plus, my feedback on there is like 326 and people have begun to expect to find me there. Etsy has  a weird bug also. I took stuff down from there and it was down for well over a week, but then one sold. (?) So that makes me a little put off by it. Not to Etsy bash or anything. Almost everyone i&#8217;ve heard speak of it likes it, and I imagine I will also&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Rywalt</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-555</link>
		<author>Chris Rywalt</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-555</guid>
		<description>I will admit that there are a number of successful artists I dislike without ever having met them.  You can probably guess who they are, too, because they're the guys everyone hates.  So there is something there.  I'd like to think, if I did meet one of them, I'd suspend my dislike until I got to know them.  But then it's been my experience that when someone makes art I dislike, I find I don't like them as people very much, either.  While people I like tend to make art I like.  When they're artists, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will admit that there are a number of successful artists I dislike without ever having met them.  You can probably guess who they are, too, because they&#8217;re the guys everyone hates.  So there is something there.  I&#8217;d like to think, if I did meet one of them, I&#8217;d suspend my dislike until I got to know them.  But then it&#8217;s been my experience that when someone makes art I dislike, I find I don&#8217;t like them as people very much, either.  While people I like tend to make art I like.  When they&#8217;re artists, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-553</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-553</guid>
		<description>Well, I imagine the whole artistic jealousy/competition thing really kicks in when there's something at stake--when one artist achieves some success that the other artist thinks he doesn't deserve. The story of what happened to Wordsworth and Coleridge is a good example of this, particularly since they were poets and put many of their feelings (about each other) into words... There are numerous examples of artists who were jealous. I like the story of what happened between Emile Zola and his childhood friends Manet and Cezanne. Also, the etelier of Jacques-Louis David was a treasure trove of snarky, unbecoming, mutual acts of petty jealousy and schadenfreude... I could go on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I imagine the whole artistic jealousy/competition thing really kicks in when there&#8217;s something at stake&#8211;when one artist achieves some success that the other artist thinks he doesn&#8217;t deserve. The story of what happened to Wordsworth and Coleridge is a good example of this, particularly since they were poets and put many of their feelings (about each other) into words&#8230; There are numerous examples of artists who were jealous. I like the story of what happened between Emile Zola and his childhood friends Manet and Cezanne. Also, the etelier of Jacques-Louis David was a treasure trove of snarky, unbecoming, mutual acts of petty jealousy and schadenfreude&#8230; I could go on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Rywalt</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-549</link>
		<author>Chris Rywalt</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-549</guid>
		<description>I've found that most artists I've met have been absolutely fantastic, open, giving people.  Successful or not -- I've met both, although none stratospherically successful -- most artists have been really great.  Maybe I'm just lucky.

For the month I spent at SVA last summer, I found that the physical closeness of other artists in the studios next door to be an amazing motivator.  I painted more in that month than in the previous three or four years combined!

I did start to see some of what I'll call political difficulties emerge after the first two weeks or so.  I've always avoided the stereotype of the "sensitive artist," but maybe it's a stereotype for a reason -- maybe artists are more sensitive, and thus slights and insults which might be ignored by others become huge arguments and absinthe-throwing tantrums.

Unless it's just that artists figure, being "sensitive," they can get away with behaving like children.  If I thought I could, I sure would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found that most artists I&#8217;ve met have been absolutely fantastic, open, giving people.  Successful or not &#8212; I&#8217;ve met both, although none stratospherically successful &#8212; most artists have been really great.  Maybe I&#8217;m just lucky.</p>
<p>For the month I spent at SVA last summer, I found that the physical closeness of other artists in the studios next door to be an amazing motivator.  I painted more in that month than in the previous three or four years combined!</p>
<p>I did start to see some of what I&#8217;ll call political difficulties emerge after the first two weeks or so.  I&#8217;ve always avoided the stereotype of the &#8220;sensitive artist,&#8221; but maybe it&#8217;s a stereotype for a reason &#8212; maybe artists are more sensitive, and thus slights and insults which might be ignored by others become huge arguments and absinthe-throwing tantrums.</p>
<p>Unless it&#8217;s just that artists figure, being &#8220;sensitive,&#8221; they can get away with behaving like children.  If I thought I could, I sure would.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-548</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-548</guid>
		<description>Have you tried any of the selling sites dedicated specifically to arts and crafts?
I've heard some local artists talking about ETSY (http://www.etsy.com/).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried any of the selling sites dedicated specifically to arts and crafts?<br />
I&#8217;ve heard some local artists talking about ETSY (http://www.etsy.com/).</p>
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		<title>By: Gabe Combs</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-540</link>
		<author>Gabe Combs</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/02/02/artists-killing-themselves-through-competition/#comment-540</guid>
		<description>Thats interesting. You know, this all is partly why I remove myself from it all somewhat and retire myself to Ebay and online promotion/sales. The prices are incredibly smaller, but I don't have to deal with that anymore, the range of what I percieve to be flaws in the galleries, scene, ect.

Have you ever heard of Gauguin being a pedophile? I spoke with an Mcad student awhile back that said she'd read some letters he wrote about pretty young girls he'd been with or something. I'm still waiting for her to produce the papers as she said she would.

I have'nt been able to check out your Sellout blog yet as the library's wireless has a bug that tells me its not found. It does this with many pages off and on, so its not your page exclusively. I have'nt tried today yet though...

Btw, not having net access at home, I tend to copy/paste things I want to read from the net. I just did this with your A &#38; E article so I can read it at home in my leisure. If you find this unacceptable let me know. Of course, i'm not distributing it or even printing it out. But as far as intellectual property rights go, I won't continue to do this if it offends.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats interesting. You know, this all is partly why I remove myself from it all somewhat and retire myself to Ebay and online promotion/sales. The prices are incredibly smaller, but I don&#8217;t have to deal with that anymore, the range of what I percieve to be flaws in the galleries, scene, ect.</p>
<p>Have you ever heard of Gauguin being a pedophile? I spoke with an Mcad student awhile back that said she&#8217;d read some letters he wrote about pretty young girls he&#8217;d been with or something. I&#8217;m still waiting for her to produce the papers as she said she would.</p>
<p>I have&#8217;nt been able to check out your Sellout blog yet as the library&#8217;s wireless has a bug that tells me its not found. It does this with many pages off and on, so its not your page exclusively. I have&#8217;nt tried today yet though&#8230;</p>
<p>Btw, not having net access at home, I tend to copy/paste things I want to read from the net. I just did this with your A &amp; E article so I can read it at home in my leisure. If you find this unacceptable let me know. Of course, i&#8217;m not distributing it or even printing it out. But as far as intellectual property rights go, I won&#8217;t continue to do this if it offends.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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