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	<title>Comments on: Republishing myself: On &#8220;What Vincent van Gogh Means to Us Today&#8221;</title>
	<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/01/26/republishing-myself-on-what-vincent-van-gogh-means-to-us-today/</link>
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		<title>By: starry night</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/01/26/republishing-myself-on-what-vincent-van-gogh-means-to-us-today/#comment-1698</link>
		<author>starry night</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think my favourite Van Gogh painting would be Starry Night and I love the Don Mclean song Vincent which is about this painting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my favourite Van Gogh painting would be Starry Night and I love the Don Mclean song Vincent which is about this painting.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabe Combs</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/01/26/republishing-myself-on-what-vincent-van-gogh-means-to-us-today/#comment-541</link>
		<author>Gabe Combs</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I was convinced that it was the work and only the work that mattered for some time. But as i've grown older i've pretty much completely flipped on that issue. I think his life and his art are the work at the same time. His work would not, and could not, be what it is without his life being what it was. Otherwise, where does the work come from? It comes from him and his life. It is a Van Gogh you are taking in. His emotion and all of that is expressed in the work. I don't think if his life had been bland that he would have ever gotten so much across. Maybe some of the "technical" side of painting, but not the feeling. I now believe whole-heartedly that the work and the artist and their life, paint, graphite, ect... are all the same thing entwined and inseperable. If an artist chooses to use a certain medium it seems to me it is often chosen as it gets across what the artist is trying to say, express, ect. If I write Graffiti it is a direct extension of my core beliefs, feelings towards society, emotions, ect. Well, thats my two cents worth for now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I was convinced that it was the work and only the work that mattered for some time. But as i&#8217;ve grown older i&#8217;ve pretty much completely flipped on that issue. I think his life and his art are the work at the same time. His work would not, and could not, be what it is without his life being what it was. Otherwise, where does the work come from? It comes from him and his life. It is a Van Gogh you are taking in. His emotion and all of that is expressed in the work. I don&#8217;t think if his life had been bland that he would have ever gotten so much across. Maybe some of the &#8220;technical&#8221; side of painting, but not the feeling. I now believe whole-heartedly that the work and the artist and their life, paint, graphite, ect&#8230; are all the same thing entwined and inseperable. If an artist chooses to use a certain medium it seems to me it is often chosen as it gets across what the artist is trying to say, express, ect. If I write Graffiti it is a direct extension of my core beliefs, feelings towards society, emotions, ect. Well, thats my two cents worth for now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Rywalt</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/01/26/republishing-myself-on-what-vincent-van-gogh-means-to-us-today/#comment-529</link>
		<author>Chris Rywalt</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/01/26/republishing-myself-on-what-vincent-van-gogh-means-to-us-today/#comment-529</guid>
		<description>I think it's based on a combination, and it is that way because humans like a good story and you can't pretend you don't know the story when you're looking at a painting.  If Van Gogh were a really lousy painter, he'd be about as well known as Henry Darger; if he were just pretty good he'd be Modigliani.  But his paintings are really good &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; his story is especially touching.

As for his being less than influential, I'd say it's possible Van Gogh is more influential but more subtle than people give him credit for; or it's possible that he (like Pollock or Rousseau, for example) developed a style that just couldn't be carried forward.

As for your second point, I don't think -- for me, anyway -- his life story has any effect at all on my reaction to his work.  His story is something I know intellectually; his paintings I experience on a level below the intellectual.

I'm also not sure about your thesis, that Van Gogh is the most famous artist of all time.  Picasso and Leonardo are both well known enough; any of the three could and have been used in that layman's question, "Who do you think you are, Van Gogh?"  In fact I think Leonardo and Picasso might have the edge on Van Gogh that way.

Of course, Leonardo was a long time ago -- how often does his work go on auction? -- and Picasso helped build his own reputation.  So Van Gogh is a special case, there.

By some strange coincidence, my MP3 player is currently playing Don McLean's "Vincent."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s based on a combination, and it is that way because humans like a good story and you can&#8217;t pretend you don&#8217;t know the story when you&#8217;re looking at a painting.  If Van Gogh were a really lousy painter, he&#8217;d be about as well known as Henry Darger; if he were just pretty good he&#8217;d be Modigliani.  But his paintings are really good <i>and</i> his story is especially touching.</p>
<p>As for his being less than influential, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s possible Van Gogh is more influential but more subtle than people give him credit for; or it&#8217;s possible that he (like Pollock or Rousseau, for example) developed a style that just couldn&#8217;t be carried forward.</p>
<p>As for your second point, I don&#8217;t think &#8212; for me, anyway &#8212; his life story has any effect at all on my reaction to his work.  His story is something I know intellectually; his paintings I experience on a level below the intellectual.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also not sure about your thesis, that Van Gogh is the most famous artist of all time.  Picasso and Leonardo are both well known enough; any of the three could and have been used in that layman&#8217;s question, &#8220;Who do you think you are, Van Gogh?&#8221;  In fact I think Leonardo and Picasso might have the edge on Van Gogh that way.</p>
<p>Of course, Leonardo was a long time ago &#8212; how often does his work go on auction? &#8212; and Picasso helped build his own reputation.  So Van Gogh is a special case, there.</p>
<p>By some strange coincidence, my MP3 player is currently playing Don McLean&#8217;s &#8220;Vincent.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/01/26/republishing-myself-on-what-vincent-van-gogh-means-to-us-today/#comment-528</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't get me wrong--I like van Gogh's work, and I am affected by it. I'm not dismissing it at all...
I just wonder two things. One, why is HE the most famous artist of all time, especially since he was so uninfluential, artistically speaking, in his time and beyond? And two, how much of our emotional response to his work--perhaps one basis of his enduring modern popularity--based more on what we know of his tragic life story, as opposed to strictly on his work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong&#8211;I like van Gogh&#8217;s work, and I am affected by it. I&#8217;m not dismissing it at all&#8230;<br />
I just wonder two things. One, why is HE the most famous artist of all time, especially since he was so uninfluential, artistically speaking, in his time and beyond? And two, how much of our emotional response to his work&#8211;perhaps one basis of his enduring modern popularity&#8211;based more on what we know of his tragic life story, as opposed to strictly on his work?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Rywalt</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/01/26/republishing-myself-on-what-vincent-van-gogh-means-to-us-today/#comment-521</link>
		<author>Chris Rywalt</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/01/26/republishing-myself-on-what-vincent-van-gogh-means-to-us-today/#comment-521</guid>
		<description>You make some good points here, but I think you miss the mark when you imply that Van Gogh's painting isn't good enough to support his status.  I personally have never been as moved -- physically affected -- by a painting the way I was when I first met a Van Gogh in person.  I was totally and completely unprepared for my visceral reaction, especially since it was a painting I'd seen so many times in reproduction.  And a landscape, when I generally find landscapes boring beyond belief.

Maybe a Van Gogh doesn't hit you, personally, as hard as  it hits others.  But you can't dismiss it.  A lot of people feel something from Van Gogh they never feel from a Gauguin.  I know, in my case, I went through an entire Gauguin exhibit without feeling a thing other than "He could've used a drawing class."

Gauguin, C&#233;zanne, Picasso, Matisse -- I appreciate them intellectually, but they don't &lt;i&gt;affect&lt;/i&gt; me.  Van Gogh does.

Just my feeling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make some good points here, but I think you miss the mark when you imply that Van Gogh&#8217;s painting isn&#8217;t good enough to support his status.  I personally have never been as moved &#8212; physically affected &#8212; by a painting the way I was when I first met a Van Gogh in person.  I was totally and completely unprepared for my visceral reaction, especially since it was a painting I&#8217;d seen so many times in reproduction.  And a landscape, when I generally find landscapes boring beyond belief.</p>
<p>Maybe a Van Gogh doesn&#8217;t hit you, personally, as hard as  it hits others.  But you can&#8217;t dismiss it.  A lot of people feel something from Van Gogh they never feel from a Gauguin.  I know, in my case, I went through an entire Gauguin exhibit without feeling a thing other than &#8220;He could&#8217;ve used a drawing class.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gauguin, C&eacute;zanne, Picasso, Matisse &#8212; I appreciate them intellectually, but they don&#8217;t <i>affect</i> me.  Van Gogh does.</p>
<p>Just my feeling.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/01/26/republishing-myself-on-what-vincent-van-gogh-means-to-us-today/#comment-497</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by G.
Glad to have you.
You should also check out the new blog, &lt;a href="http://www.imasellout.info/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sellout.&lt;/a&gt; It tells a similar story, about the artistic struggle, but completely from artists' points of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by G.<br />
Glad to have you.<br />
You should also check out the new blog, <a href="http://www.imasellout.info/" rel="nofollow">Sellout.</a> It tells a similar story, about the artistic struggle, but completely from artists&#8217; points of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabe Combs</title>
		<link>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/01/26/republishing-myself-on-what-vincent-van-gogh-means-to-us-today/#comment-492</link>
		<author>Gabe Combs</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.artisticfailure.com/2008/01/26/republishing-myself-on-what-vincent-van-gogh-means-to-us-today/#comment-492</guid>
		<description>lovely blog you've evolved into, MF. looks like you'll keep me reading a bit more...

cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lovely blog you&#8217;ve evolved into, MF. looks like you&#8217;ll keep me reading a bit more&#8230;</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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